
=== Ceqli ===

link list complete through July 8 2005; start here when continue:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ceqli/messages/1412

Comments on web site; definite article, phonology, phonotactics
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ceqli/message/1327
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ceqli/message/1330
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ceqli/message/1332
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ceqli/message/1337
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ceqli/message/1339

More on phonotactics; making opposite terms by reversing the faloba phonemes
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ceqli/message/1341
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ceqli/message/1344
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ceqli/message/1349

Orthographic reform
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ceqli/message/1350

Marking proper names and foreign words specific to one culture
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ceqli/message/1361
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ceqli/message/1368 

Transitivity; selecting transitivity of roots, marking change in transitivity or valency
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ceqli/message/1374
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ceqli/message/1375

Comments on the glossary (formatting and phrasing of glosses)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ceqli/message/1384

Terms for "hot" and "cold"
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ceqli/message/1386


Words for height, length, width
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ceqli/message/1382

Comments on many unclear glosses in the lexicon, questions about derivation methods
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ceqli/message/1397

Words for "rent" and "lend"; specific or general prepositions
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ceqli/message/1399

"zu" (to use/using) as verb or preposition; "ci", "ca", "cu" as demonstratives or prepositions
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ceqli/message/1402
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ceqli/message/1404
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ceqli/message/1411


Letter names reform
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ceqli/message/1406
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ceqli/message/1409


Comments on Babel Text
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ceqli/message/1395
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ceqli/message/1396




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recent (2008) msgs on conlanging in general, not gzb


& look for...

Efficiency/Spatial Compactness

conlangs as art

what is language?

defining language

=== old stuff, starting from nov 2005 onward...

Semantic patterns for word derivation
http://archives.conlang.info/vo/zhiatau/vhuerchulsuen.html
http://archives.conlang.info/vo/zhiatau/phoelcialsuen.html
http://archives.conlang.info/ghae/forbo/zalvhoenzuen.html
http://archives.conlang.info/ghae/forbo/zuelqhuanzuen.html
http://archives.conlang.info/ghae/forbo/bhoelshialzuen.html


Words with built-in error correction
http://archives.conlang.info/qhe/wonku/daenwoelsuen.html

Indices of agglutinativity and synthesis
http://archives.conlang.info/qe/waufei/voenpoersuen.html
http://archives.conlang.info/jae/zeinpei/wuelbursuen.html

Self-segregating morphology system: more important at morpheme or word level?
http://archives.conlang.info/phe/sheilboe/whaurwhoezuen.html
http://archives.conlang.info/pe/phiaqho/jhuawoenzuen.html
http://archives.conlang.info/pe/phiaqho/sathoenzuen.html

Types of possession - untangling the polysemous IE genitive
http://archives.conlang.info/who/bharshe/paedhuezuen.html
http://archives.conlang.info/jae/vaeljhue/fuenjheirzuen.html 
http://archives.conlang.info/who/bharshe/shorbaenzuen.html
http://archives.conlang.info/who/bharshe/tuezoenzuen.html

Third generation native speakers of Esperanto and ASL
http://archives.conlang.info/bau/dhiltue/qaelqhuanzuen.html

Gary Shannon's idea of "using a language into existence" (forerunner of Kalusa)
http://archives.conlang.info/zu/saenji/dicherzuen.html
http://archives.conlang.info/zu/saenji/coerfhorzuen.html

Ideas for types of irregularity in a naturalistic artlang
http://archives.conlang.info/khae/veilva/peidoeljuen.html 

English "ago" compared with other-language equivalents, etc.
http://archives.conlang.info/whe/ghulqua/puabeirjuen.html
http://archives.conlang.info/whe/ghulqua/forbeirjuen.html

Diachronic instability of oligosynthesis
http://archives.conlang.info/za/caejin/tuantaurjuen.html 

Modes of inflection and compounding in a non-linear 2D writing system
http://archives.conlang.info/fa/selthaen/zhonfheinphuen.html

Tell your conlang story!
http://archives.conlang.info/bi/qhanve/dhuencuelbhuen.html 

Clausal vs. phrasal "but" in English, German, Finnish, gzb
http://archives.conlang.info/khe/qultoe/fheinzhuenthuen.html
http://archives.conlang.info/khe/qultoe/jhuldhalthuen.html

More on deriving many conjunctions from a few particles
http://archives.conlang.info/zho/seigua/dhacelthuen.html
http://archives.conlang.info/zho/seigua/qolqhalthuen.html

Archaising of the term "ejaculatory prayer" for obvious reasons
http://archives.conlang.info/di/ghivua/pashilthuen.html

My neologism "sympolitan"
http://archives.conlang.info/jhau/fargan/fheinghualthuen.html

Analyzing conjunctions and subjunctions, and thoughts on lexicon design/writing glosses
http://archives.conlang.info/vae/qaulwhue/wirpuelthuen.html
http://archives.conlang.info/vae/qaulwhue/joerduelthuen.html
http://archives.conlang.info/vae/qaulwhue/fuandeirthuen.html

Auxlang design, trade-offs between expressive power and ease of learning
http://archives.conlang.info/wha/solbhu/chojeirthuen.html

Adpositions which are sometimes prepositional, sometimes postpositional 
http://archives.conlang.info/fi/qhialbhue/khuchedhuen.html

Contronyms (sort of) in gzb; ways to keep confusing homophones  or polysemy from developing
http://archives.conlang.info/ti/thiashon/dagaudhuen.html

Comments on Herman Miller's alternate history auxlang Tiki, comparing with Esperanto and Volapuk
http://archives.conlang.info/kho/qhaegan/jhoencauldhuen.html

Morpheme boundary ambiguities, how important is it to avoid them? (in various types of conlang)
http://archives.conlang.info/kho/qhaegan/thaeltheildhuen.html

Deflating overblown claims for machine translation
http://archives.conlang.info/shi/khinbhan/jolghoeldhuen.html

Explaining self-segregating morphology, with list of methods
http://archives.conlang.info/du/peirqe/phulpikhuen.html
http://archives.conlang.info/du/peirqe/korqhikhuen.html
http://archives.conlang.info/du/peirqe/kualgikhuen.html
http://archives.conlang.info/du/peirqe/corbhikhuen.html
http://archives.conlang.info/du/peirqe/seirjaukhuen.html

Interrogative particles conflated with another series besides the relatives?
http://archives.conlang.info/fae/khongo/wheirkankhuen.html
http://archives.conlang.info/fae/khongo/shaunjinkhuen.html

Comparison of adjectives in Ithkuil and gzb
http://archives.conlang.info/shu/jhiarkun/sulpelkhuen.html

John 3:16 in sab zjeda
http://archives.conlang.info/qhe/veqhun/siadolkhuen.html

Translation as a means of uncovering gaps in a conlang's lexicon and grammar
http://archives.conlang.info/cau/vhunjoe/dhuelsaulkhuen.html

Making a conlang where certain kinds of ungrammaticality are impossible; noise resistance


Mythical mutations -- oral history relay
http://archives.conlang.info/tau/taurcen/keinkarkhuen.html

Comments on Sai Emrys' essay  "On the design of an ideal language"; noise resistance
http://archives.conlang.info/co/boerghin/kobhuelkhuen.html
http://archives.conlang.info/co/boerghin/vianqhuelkhuen.html
http://archives.conlang.info/co/boerghin/qelghirkhuen.html
http://archives.conlang.info/co/boerghin/vauwhurkhuen.html
http://archives.conlang.info/ki/fhengia/wedarkhuen.htm



need to merge this with existing links to earlier messages in same thread:

Morphosyntactic alignment re: genitive case or construct state
http://archives.conlang.info/gu/khoendha/gheiphuanghuen.html
http://archives.conlang.info/kae/vhiwua/boerphaulghuen.html

Introducing myself and other CONLANG list regulars to a new member
http://archives.conlang.info/shu/vualchon/qhovhianghuen.html
http://archives.conlang.info/shu/vualchon/kuarduanghuen.html

OVS languages vs. OVS order for emphasis in free-word-order langages
http://archives.conlang.info/wae/zethe/khaelcolghuen.html

Place name constituents, and silly street names in Richmond and Atlanta
http://archives.conlang.info/cha/kabe/foensolghuen.html
http://archives.conlang.info/cha/kabe/fheirsulghuen.html

"Hagioglossa" and other possible terms for conlangs created for prayer/worship
http://archives.conlang.info/ka/qhuqan/sheinjaulghuen.html

Kalusa, the spiffiest collaborative conlang EVER
http://archives.conlang.info/qhi/qaelcoe/fhoelkarghuen.html
http://archives.conlang.info/qhi/qaelcoe/sherqarghuen.html
http://archives.conlang.info/phae/taulzon/shuerkharghuen.html
http://archives.conlang.info/tho/paultin/whuarphorghuen.html
http://archives.conlang.info/tho/paultin/bheilvhorghuen.html
http://archives.conlang.info/cae/vhuelza/dholgheinwhuen.html

Thoughts on collaborative conlang methods, from experiences with Kalusa
http://archives.conlang.info/jae/quanchen/doenbeilvuan.html

Defining "Language" -- Kalusa was more of a "real" language than many other conlangs
http://archives.conlang.info/we/bulbo/qhaerjuersuan.html
http://archives.conlang.info/we/bulbo/phuargizuan.html



Iain M. Banks' Marain language
http://archives.conlang.info/wi/ghoenghia/gerqhichuen.htm

Conlang conference commemorative stamps
http://archives.conlang.info/shae/fuervhau/theinzochuen.html

What texts are most translated? -- the Bible in various conlangs, etc.
http://archives.conlang.info/cau/whanzhi/qhulchuchuen.html
http://archives.conlang.info/cau/whanzhi/fiarkaechuen.html



(? juxtapose this with "promiscuity and fidelity" thread links ?)

Conlanger personality types
http://archives.conlang.info/gho/wharbho/whualwoechuen.html 

Different kinds of place-nominalization 
http://archives.conlang.info/zae/shaelkau/guenzuachuen.html

Prithmahler Len Maltha? -- a mysterious undocumented conlang
http://archives.conlang.info/ci/saechae/jhuerfhianchuen.html

What IS language anyway?
http://archives.conlang.info/dae/zolwei/chonjelchuen.html



need to merge this with existing links to earlier messages in same thread:

What is it we are saying in our languages?
http://archives.conlang.info/dhae/zhauldhia/gheilthaefhuen.html
http://archives.conlang.info/dhae/zhauldhia/wentanfhuen.html


Esperanto's spiffiness doesn't become apparent until you see how people actually use it
http://archives.conlang.info/qae/vhaebhoe/vhaushufhuen.html

Advantages of phonetic vs. phonemic scripts
http://archives.conlang.info/to/zhiarbhau/zeirphuafhuen.html

Taxonomic vocabulary -- using distributional categories rather than semantic domains
http://archives.conlang.info/khe/jhonqen/zanjulwhuen.html

Ideas for making a deliberately difficult language
http://archives.conlang.info/dhi/dhiarzhon/caelchoenshuen.html
http://archives.conlang.info/dhi/dhiarzhon/ghoelpuenshuen.html

Implied verbs
http://archives.conlang.info/dhau/whutae/khueldhalshuen.html 

Frame-based vocabulary?
http://archives.conlang.info/ca/vaenfhun/kaerbhorkuan.html

Polysynthetic wordplay in Esperanto
http://http://archives.conlang.info/qae/whelgen/zuarduerkuan.html


Using histograms of commmon onsets and rimes to avoid repetition
http://archives.conlang.info/bei/qhelchue/gaerqhuaguan.html

Conlang optimized for a specific text
http://archives.conlang.info/bho/ghaunghua/vilphuanguan.html


Coming out & finding-the-community stories?
http://archives.conlang.info/kha/tenchue/zuantherguan.html

Suggestions for Ben Haanstra on his low-semantic-ambiguity engelang project
http://archives.conlang.info/chi/qenghun/qhuzhoquan.html

A conversation in English, Toki Pona, and Esperanto with the Jabberwacky bot
http://archives.conlang.info/fi/keirfua/thaeshoquan.html 

Copular verbs and predicative case
http://archives.conlang.info/ta/wonwhen/jauwaequan.html
http://archives.conlang.info/ta/wonwhen/chonwaequan.html
http://archives.conlang.info/ta/wonwhen/zhilshaequan.html

How to name an alien race
http://archives.conlang.info/shau/fuelsua/ghorbencuan.html
http://archives.conlang.info/shau/fuelsua/baunkencuan.html

Necessary Components of a Language
http://archives.conlang.info/whu/qhuelve/voelphircuan.html
http://archives.conlang.info/whu/qhuelve/finfhurcuan.html
http://archives.conlang.info/whu/qhuelve/jheldaurcuan.html

Transparency or opacity of compounds; quantifying and measuring idiomaticity
http://archives.conlang.info/wa/derda/bhalwhilcuan.html
http://archives.conlang.info/wa/derda/bhiarbarcuan.html
http://archives.conlang.info/wa/derda/cefhurcuan.html
http://archives.conlang.info/wa/derda/woeltoercuan.html
http://archives.conlang.info/wa/derda/vaejoercuan.html
http://archives.conlang.info/wa/derda/jhoethercuan.html

Corpus size as a measure of conlang completeness
http://archives.conlang.info/wa/derda/geintoercuan.html

Languages' effect on thought (not extreme whorfianism)
http://archives.conlang.info/wa/derda/voelseilcuan.html

Polysemy
http://archives.conlang.info/wau/doerca/kanzhuewuan.html

Postmortem on the LCC2 conlang relay
http://archives.conlang.info/so/qeirwhau/voerzeilsuan.html


LCC2: Meeting our Community
http://archives.conlang.info/phe/sialshon/sheldhursuan.html


Efficiency/Spatial Compactness
http://archives.conlang.info/zha/fhuaven/cueghursuan.html

How does copyright, trademark, and patent law apply to conlangs?
http://archives.conlang.info/vhi/qhango/bulbaulphuan.html

More on Wikipedia deletionism
http://archives.conlang.info/ba/dhudhua/phirtalthuan.html

Language learning in portal fantasy
http://archives.conlang.info/wu/whoertu/khuerwheindhuan.html
http://archives.conlang.info/wu/whoertu/thirfhuandhuan.html

Comments for Gary Shannon on another collaborative conlang proposal
http://archives.conlang.info/si/venjaen/zoengoeldhuan.html
http://archives.conlang.info/si/venjaen/joervoeldhuan.html
http://archives.conlang.info/si/venjaen/zenthoeldhuan.html

Book reviews and recommendations
http://archives.conlang.info/bhi/puelvun/puelghoerqhuan.html
http://archives.conlang.info/sho/kirven/dhoeltuarzhuan.html

Tentative proposal for conlang awards to be administrated by LCS
http://archives.conlang.info/ko/qhuarwho/galkuchuan.html

Comments on Sai Emrys' proposal to merge various conlang fora and wikis
http://archives.conlang.info/se/qherkhen/choerduchuan.html
http://archives.conlang.info/se/qherkhen/faulzenchuan.html

Conlanging and journaling
http://archives.conlang.info/zhae/cialwin/shuanfhurchuan.html
http://archives.conlang.info/zhae/cialwin/pilcheirchuan.html

James Keilty's Prashad
http://archives.conlang.info/da/whiajhon/fhoerzhoerchuan.html

Classifying and tagging books of interest to conlangers
http://archives.conlang.info/ki/puergi/fhaunghefhuan.html
http://archives.conlang.info/shi/fuerkhae/foenvhiafhuan.html 

Sarah L. Higley's (Sally Caves)' _Hildegard of Bingen's Unknown Language_.
http://archives.conlang.info/kau/whualvhon/jueshalfhuan.html

Conlangs as art; Dada conlangs; Pour faire une conlangue dadaste
http://archives.conlang.info/sa/thaerdhoe/zhaulzaelfhuan.html
http://archives.conlang.info/ge/dhardhau/fhaunsuelfhuan.html
http://archives.conlang.info/cae/galjhu/vhaursholfhuan.html
http://archives.conlang.info/cae/galjhu/vherbhaelfhuan.html
http://archives.conlang.info/cae/galjhu/wacheilfhuan.html
http://archives.conlang.info/cae/galjhu/qaulzholfhuan.html

Merging or more tightly linking the various conlang wikis?
http://archives.conlang.info/dho/wiafa/dhansheilfhuan.html
http://archives.conlang.info/dho/wiafa/fhurvarfhuan.html

Expanding in translation?
http://archives.conlang.info/khe/kheilchoe/jhanvivhuan.html
http://archives.conlang.info/cha/vhauthae/fhuephivhuan.html

Observations on when various vocative forms are used in my dialect of English
http://archives.conlang.info/cho/khuelfhua/puetunshuan.html

Quote punctuation in different dialects of English and in gzb
http://archives.conlang.info/fhe/soenshau/quabuarzhuan.html 

Searching (unsuccessfully) for someone who is a naive fluent speaker of his own conlang
http://archives.conlang.info/po/puango/fhuzhiarjhuan.html
http://archives.conlang.info/po/puango/zhiagoerjhuan.html
http://archives.conlang.info/po/puango/begepal.html

Glossopoeia out of (pseudo)glossolalia
http://archives.conlang.info/khu/thaulshia/guervhepal.html

Facing your own mortality (as a conlanger)
http://archives.conlang.info/phi/qholdaen/qheildeinpal.html
http://archives.conlang.info/phi/qholdaen/saunshelpal.html
http://archives.conlang.info/phi/qholdaen/fheiljheilpal.html
http://archives.conlang.info/phi/qholdaen/jhiajoenpal.html
http://archives.conlang.info/phi/qholdaen/zhuetualpal.html

Promiscuity & fidelity (working on one conlang for years, or intermittently on many?)
http://archives.conlang.info/bi/chilbei/cetoerpal.html
http://archives.conlang.info/zu/qhaercia/zialqabal.html

Average life of a conlang
http://archives.conlang.info/wu/seifi/phirqondal.html

Semantic vs. distributional classification of words; do any taxonomic conlangs use the latter type of classification?
http://archives.conlang.info/qhau/kenwia/zauljoerpal.html
http://archives.conlang.info/qhau/kenwia/thuanbobal.html

Ideas for an inflected programming language
http://archives.conlang.info/ba/fharwhe/qurbhiatal.html
http://archives.conlang.info/ba/fharwhe/vhiarkhiatal.html

Avoiding near-collisions in vocabulary coinage (including some gzb lexicon statistics)
http://archives.conlang.info/fau/weildhon/phuerphuetal.html
http://archives.conlang.info/fau/weildhon/punjhuetal.html
http://archives.conlang.info/fau/weildhon/bhuasontal.html
http://archives.conlang.info/fau/weildhon/boenghantal.html

Documenting the history/usage of "kitchen sink conlang" and other conlang terminology
http://archives.conlang.info/chu/whuarphe/bonbheintal.html
http://archives.conlang.info/chu/whuarphe/kaeldiantal.html


Art is when someone says 'Now' -- or is it?
http://archives.conlang.info/kha/qhoenthaen/biankhauntal.html
http://archives.conlang.info/kha/qhoenthaen/duertiantal.html
http://archives.conlang.info/kha/qhoenthaen/pheteltal.html

On _Describing Morphosyntax_ and the Lingua Questionnaire, resources for checking the thoroughness of one's grammar
http://archives.conlang.info/wi/fualdan/zhulqeltal.html

Semantic typology -- classifying languages by the concepts they lexicalize or how they divide basic semantic fields?
http://archives.conlang.info/fae/thoenkin/zaerqeltal.html
http://archives.conlang.info/fae/thoenkin/shoerviltal.html


Ways of "casting" words of one part of speech to another; specific vs. vague derivational operations in Esperanto, gzb, etc.
http://archives.conlang.info/za/dodau/qoerqiantal.html
http://archives.conlang.info/bo/vagia/jhadhiltal.html
http://archives.conlang.info/bo/vagia/daunkortal.html
http://archives.conlang.info/bo/vagia/keinghaurtal.html

Deriving adpositions from nouns or adjectives
http://archives.conlang.info/wha/qalpha/chansoltal.html
http://archives.conlang.info/wha/qalpha/deqhultal.html
http://archives.conlang.info/wha/qalpha/phuardeirtal.html
http://archives.conlang.info/wha/qalpha/zercueltal.html



.............complete through about 11 August 2008




------- still to index (among others): 



===== on gzb in particular:


Case or theta-role term for object of performance?
http://archives.conlang.info/vo/ghaelqa/zhuwhintal.html
http://archives.conlang.info/vo/ghaelqa/zinsaental.html

"In spite of"
http://archives.conlang.info/de/jorsei/qhiafhiatal.html
http://archives.conlang.info/de/jorsei/bianchuntal.html

Nutrition and pleasurable sense data
http://archives.conlang.info/ci/wuenzho/caujeintal.html
http://archives.conlang.info/ci/wuenzho/bhalqhiantal.html



----- still to index:







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(skipping ahead: a message from 2009 from Brett Williams about gzb)

Brett Williams' comments on gzb as a living language
http://listserv.brown.edu/archives/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0905E&L=AUXLANG&P=R3988

gzb and conlangs at similar stage of development are "larval languages"
http://listserv.brown.edu/archives/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0905E&L=AUXLANG&D=0&P=5833

Linguisticness of communication a continuum, not binary
http://listserv.brown.edu/archives/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0905E&L=AUXLANG&T=0&F=&S=&P=7871

